tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11279250.post9037268395735446176..comments2024-02-13T01:35:29.765-06:00Comments on MultiCultClassics: 5515: The Clueless Call Out The Clueless.HighJivehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11372784671087002387noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11279250.post-67881126087622249772008-05-28T09:51:00.000-05:002008-05-28T09:51:00.000-05:00anonymous,We hadn’t really intended to analyze Du ...anonymous,<BR/><BR/>We hadn’t really intended to analyze Du Bois. As with anything—particularly the actions and opinions of folks over 100 years ago—there are debatable and controversial components. Not convinced Du Bois ever meant to create value judgments with The Talented Tenth designation (i.e., he probably didn’t mean to label the 90 percent as untalented). Feel free to look <A HREF="http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/581418/Talented-Tenth" REL="nofollow">here</A> and <A HREF="http://www.teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=174" REL="nofollow">here.</A><BR/><BR/>Again, our main observation was the irony of using the phrase in an advertising column.<BR/><BR/>Cheers.HighJivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11372784671087002387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11279250.post-71276260757044006342008-05-28T08:26:00.000-05:002008-05-28T08:26:00.000-05:00If the talented 10th was meant by DuBois to ONLY m...If the talented 10th was meant by DuBois to ONLY mean Black people, he was being dismissive in the sense that the rest of the race would be the untalented 90th.<BR/>But truth was--I looked it up--he wrote "the talented tenth of every race" who are the leaders, the innovators, the elite so to speak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11279250.post-68460510434948568332008-05-27T21:48:00.000-05:002008-05-27T21:48:00.000-05:00No question that it became a heralding note for Bl...No question that it became a heralding note for Black people.<BR/>First time I actually heard the phrase was watching the old Roots program.<BR/>Only later did I read Du Bois, and came across the reference. It may have even been part of the essay in which he identifies with the great artists and thinkers across the centuries, irrespective of their race.<BR/>I enjoy your site. Thank you for doing it.<BR/>Also nice to see an old Hollis guy doing well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11279250.post-68946655699949948792008-05-27T21:28:00.000-05:002008-05-27T21:28:00.000-05:00get,Don’t completely agree with your perspective. ...get,<BR/><BR/>Don’t completely agree with your perspective. Most search engines respond to “The Talented Tenth” with references to Du Bois and how the term was applied to Blacks. But your perspective may be historically/technically correct too. Regardless, we were merely noting the irony of using a term with strong ties to Black culture to describe an industry where Blacks barely make up a tenth of one percent of the talented ranks.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for reading and commenting.HighJivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11372784671087002387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11279250.post-21797934950068959712008-05-27T17:00:00.000-05:002008-05-27T17:00:00.000-05:00I am a little familiar with Du Bois, and I believe...I am a little familiar with Du Bois, and I believe when he referenced the "talented 10th," he said something like "the talented 10th of every race." That is to say he wasn't merely referencing Black people.<BR/>He was making a wider comment about intellectual and social leadership, perhaps an elitist remark by today's standards, but Du Bois had a doctorate (from Harvard, I think) and thinking that way was more 19th Century than condescension.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12096751252547538811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11279250.post-38891008722787379712008-05-27T13:49:00.000-05:002008-05-27T13:49:00.000-05:0015%? 85%? This sounds a job for Clarence X and the...15%? 85%? This sounds a job for Clarence X and the 5-percenters.<BR/><BR/>NOI might even want to get in on this one.<BR/><BR/>I swear while ad folks will rip off anything from black folks including the stuff we know is fulla crap.HustleKnockerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01578735518105427366noreply@blogger.com